SANS Forensic Summit Take-Aways
I attended the SANS Forensic Summit yesterday...I won't be attending today due to meetings and work, but I wanted to provide some follow-up, thoughts, etc.
The day started off with the conference intro from Rob Lee, and then a keynote discussion from Chris Pogue of TrustWave and Major Carole Newell, Commander of Headquarters Division the Broken Arrow Police Dept. This was more of a discussion and less of a presentation, and focused on communications between private sector forensic consultants and (local) LE. Chris had volunteered to provide his services, pro bono, to the department, and Major Newell took him up on his offer, and they both talked about how successful that relationship has been. After all, Chris's work has helped put bad people in jail...and that's the overall goal, isn't it? Private sector analysts supporting LE has been a topic of discussion in several venues, and it was heartening to hear Maj Newell chime in and provide her opinion on the subject, validating the belief that this is something that needs to happen.
There were a number of excellent presentations and panels during the day. During the Malware Reverse Engineering panel, Nick Harbour of Mandiant mentioned seeing the MS DLL Search Order being employed as a malware persistence mechanism. I got a lot from Troy Larson's and Jesse Kornblum's presentations, and sat next to Mike Murr while he tweeted using the #forensicsummit tag to keep folks apprised of the latest comments, happenings, and shenanigans.
Having presented and been on a panel, it was great opportunity to share my thoughts and experiences and get comments and feedback not only from other panelists, but also from the attendees.
One of the things I really like about this conference is the folks that it brings together. I got to reconnect with friends, and talk to respected peers that I haven't seen in a while (Chris Pogue, Matt Shannon, Jesse Kornblum, Troy Larson, Richard Bejtlich), or have never met face-to-face (Dave Nardoni, Lee Whitfield, Mark McKinnon). This provides a great opportunity for sharing and discussing what we're all seeing out there, as well as just catching up. Also, like I said, it's great to discuss things with other folks in the industry...I think that a lot of times, if we're only engaging with specific individuals time and again, we tend to loose site of certain aspects of what we do, and what it means to others...other responders, as well as customers.
If someone asked me to name one thing that I would recommend as a change to the conference, that would be the venue. While some folks live and/or work close to downtown DC and it's easy to get to the hotel where the conference is held, there are a number of locations west of DC that are easily accessible from Dulles Airport (and folks from Arlington and Alexandria will be going against traffic to get there).
Other than that, I think the biggest takeaways, for me, were:
1. We need to share better. I thought I was one of the few who thought this, but from seeing the tweets on the conference and talking to folks who are there, it's a pretty common thread. Sharing between LE and the private sector is a challenge, but as Maj Newell said, it's one that everyone (except the bad guys) benefits from.
2. When giving presentations, I need to spend less time talking about what's cool and spend more time on a Mission Guide (a la Matt Shannon) approach to the material. Throwing legos on the table and expecting every analyst to 'get it' and build the same structure is a waste of time...the best way to demonstrate the usefulness and value of a tool or technique is to demonstrate how it's used.
Thanks to Rob and SANS for putting on another great conference!
Follow-ups
Foremost on Windows (Cygwin build)
The day started off with the conference intro from Rob Lee, and then a keynote discussion from Chris Pogue of TrustWave and Major Carole Newell, Commander of Headquarters Division the Broken Arrow Police Dept. This was more of a discussion and less of a presentation, and focused on communications between private sector forensic consultants and (local) LE. Chris had volunteered to provide his services, pro bono, to the department, and Major Newell took him up on his offer, and they both talked about how successful that relationship has been. After all, Chris's work has helped put bad people in jail...and that's the overall goal, isn't it? Private sector analysts supporting LE has been a topic of discussion in several venues, and it was heartening to hear Maj Newell chime in and provide her opinion on the subject, validating the belief that this is something that needs to happen.
There were a number of excellent presentations and panels during the day. During the Malware Reverse Engineering panel, Nick Harbour of Mandiant mentioned seeing the MS DLL Search Order being employed as a malware persistence mechanism. I got a lot from Troy Larson's and Jesse Kornblum's presentations, and sat next to Mike Murr while he tweeted using the #forensicsummit tag to keep folks apprised of the latest comments, happenings, and shenanigans.
Having presented and been on a panel, it was great opportunity to share my thoughts and experiences and get comments and feedback not only from other panelists, but also from the attendees.
One of the things I really like about this conference is the folks that it brings together. I got to reconnect with friends, and talk to respected peers that I haven't seen in a while (Chris Pogue, Matt Shannon, Jesse Kornblum, Troy Larson, Richard Bejtlich), or have never met face-to-face (Dave Nardoni, Lee Whitfield, Mark McKinnon). This provides a great opportunity for sharing and discussing what we're all seeing out there, as well as just catching up. Also, like I said, it's great to discuss things with other folks in the industry...I think that a lot of times, if we're only engaging with specific individuals time and again, we tend to loose site of certain aspects of what we do, and what it means to others...other responders, as well as customers.
If someone asked me to name one thing that I would recommend as a change to the conference, that would be the venue. While some folks live and/or work close to downtown DC and it's easy to get to the hotel where the conference is held, there are a number of locations west of DC that are easily accessible from Dulles Airport (and folks from Arlington and Alexandria will be going against traffic to get there).
Other than that, I think the biggest takeaways, for me, were:
1. We need to share better. I thought I was one of the few who thought this, but from seeing the tweets on the conference and talking to folks who are there, it's a pretty common thread. Sharing between LE and the private sector is a challenge, but as Maj Newell said, it's one that everyone (except the bad guys) benefits from.
2. When giving presentations, I need to spend less time talking about what's cool and spend more time on a Mission Guide (a la Matt Shannon) approach to the material. Throwing legos on the table and expecting every analyst to 'get it' and build the same structure is a waste of time...the best way to demonstrate the usefulness and value of a tool or technique is to demonstrate how it's used.
Thanks to Rob and SANS for putting on another great conference!
Follow-ups
Foremost on Windows (Cygwin build)